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20 April 2010 @ 09:58 pm
i don't really think i'm that boring, really  
Just imagine: I'm giving this presentation on ask_captainjack and the Askworld, talking about how awesome it is (in a theoretical and academic way, of course) and how unique and how even though most of the interactions centered around Jack suggesting sexual and probably physically impossible things to all and sundry there is something radical, entertaining, and meaningful in a 6 month extravaganza of unplanned RPGing. And while I'm speaking, in my not-to-be-missed loud presentation voice (trust me, if you'd heard my inside voice you would understand that I don't *need* an outside voice), I am making eye contact with the course instructor, and the other two students in our class (yes, we are a class of 3 graduate students - the asian studies program is cozy, ok?), and I watch with internal winces of horror as one of the two students begins to fall asleep during my presentation. 

Now, I've reconciled myself to the notion that the guy is a bit of a jerk.  I used to call him my nemesis, but I've softened on the archenemy position because he was humanized by a fellow classmate.  So he's been downgraded to amusing to look at (he's kind of nontraditionally attractive and pretends he's not emo even though he wears purple skinny jeans and vests while carrying his skateboard unironically, of course), not stupid just quick to judge and a little narrow minded and elitist, but entertaining in that 'oh, of course you're going to take the contradictory position to me' kind of way.

But drifting off? Really?  During a 20 minute presentation?

And when I called him on it during the break, he shrugged and said that I shouldn't take it personally - he apparently drops off in another class we share (this one with 4 more people in it) all the time. 

The only reason why I didn't throw my shoe at him was because I was too lazy to take it off.  And the knowledge that he wouldn't actually understand why I was throwing it in the first place.  On the up side, I think the presentation went well for the other two people.
 
 
 
whichclotheswhichclothes on April 21st, 2010 01:05 am (UTC)
I've been a college professor for some time, and I've learned to stop taking it personally when students doze in my class. Most of them don't, but sometimes one or two do. And it's usually the same one or two, which means it probably has less to do with me than it does with how late they stay up at night. I'm not above walking to the sleeper's desk and TALKING REALLY LOUD. :-)
my monkied brain: _nihon-flowerkatekat1010 on April 21st, 2010 01:24 am (UTC)
I think I might be less incensed if it wasn't a 4 person graduate class where I'd just paid attention to his 15 minute presentation on why Philip K. Dick's Man in the High Castle will help translation studies, you know?

Sure, in a normal class people are going to nod off. But this is a place where it's him, me, one other student and the professor. On paper presentation day when we're supposed to be helping each other find holes in our arguments.

Though, really, I'm also learning not to expect much from him period.
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Emelye: I Hate Itemelye_miller on April 21st, 2010 01:08 am (UTC)
Wow. What a dick. If it were me, I would have jumped right over the shoe and considered throwing the lectern.
my monkied brain: angel - smilekatekat1010 on April 21st, 2010 01:24 am (UTC)
no lectern to throw - it's such a small class we're around a conference table.

he's lame - i am at least basking in the glow that it is true!
EB: Queen of the Social Lepers: kate rocks (take 3)elizabuffy on April 21st, 2010 01:11 am (UTC)
OMG! Rude! I so would have thrown the shoe. And you should so go back to calling him The Nemesis.

I'm glad the presentation went well for those who were awake. I so wish I could have been in the class w/ you. I'd give my left testicle to have heard that!

(full disclosure: I have, in fact, fallen asleep in class...and drooled...in the front row...although i WAS heavily medicated at the time)

Love you bunches!

~e!
my monkied brain: EB Rockskatekat1010 on April 21st, 2010 01:28 am (UTC)
yeah, he pretty much ends up symbolizing rude in a variety of ways - my lj would probably be more amusing if i could keep track of them and wrote them down. Luckily we started our phds at the same time so I'll probably get 5 more years of this! Huzzah!

And OMG i just posted to the academic filter (which i know you're on) with my notes from the presentation - maybe they are entertaining enough to glance through?? I would have LOVED to have you in the room though BB! And it would have made mentioning Max (i even had a picture of a puppy) totally worth it!

And full disclosure? SO HAVE I! In a physics class that was awesome. For no reason other than I was lame (at least you have an excuse). BUT, that class was 70 odd people and not a conference table with 3 other people at it

*squishes you to itty bitty pieces*

love,
kate
gray_ghostgray_ghost on April 21st, 2010 01:34 am (UTC)
Poor water on his head. I did that to a fellow grad student once.
my monkied brainkatekat1010 on April 21st, 2010 01:38 am (UTC)
really?? in a class?
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Blue: Earth is Full. Go Home.blue_meridian on April 21st, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
I have always had a devil of a time staying awake in classroom type situations - high school and college - for physiological reasons, but even I would have managed that one! Yeah, I think I'd be calling him The Nemesis, too.
my monkied brain: b/g - look of lovekatekat1010 on April 21st, 2010 02:03 am (UTC)
I can completely forgive falling asleep in many classrooms - it's not like I haven't done it myself and I have absolutely no medical excuse.

Frustratingly I actually did feel bad that I was going on and being boring (though seriously, I did not think I was boring! Fan communities = awesome, right?)

I may have to re-dub him The Nemesis - considering that we're likely to share classes for many years, I'm sure there are other factors that will add to this impression!
literate and stylish: chuck is shockedmishloran on April 21st, 2010 05:13 am (UTC)
I have to admit, I have fallen asleep in many a class - for example, back when I did that year of an English degree, I had 8.00am seminars, and I often fell asleep in them, even though it was around 10 people per seminar and we were expected to contribute. But having to get up at 6.30am to get the bus did not make for an awake Mish at 8.00am.

I don't think I fell asleep in any lectures during my degree or MA, mind. Although it was tempting to in the 9.00am 2 hour Egyptology ones, in which the lecturer would turn off the lights and close the curtains and just show us slides for 2 hours. Urm?! (The Archaeology department sucks!)

I also, more recently, fell asleep in a lecture on 'the sound of Latin', at Latin Summer Camp last year, because it was That Boring. But I was in a hallway surrounded by at least 150 if not more other students... Although my friend sitting next to me did elbow me a couple of times to say, 'dude, that's not okay'. Heh.

But when there's only 3 other people in the room? You do your best to stay awake, even if it does mean trying to make yourself in physical pain so the sleep doesn't drift on in. And if I had fallen asleep, I probably would have apologised and come up with a better excuse than 'I do it all the time'. Hmm!

But if it went well to the other two, and the prof, then that is what counts :)

Also, incidentally, I followed that link and saw this:

QUESTION: What is Christmas like in the future? Do you get presents?
ANSWER: Do I get presents? Baby, I'm the kind of guy who gets presents just for existing!


And I thought "Zaphod Beeblebrox?" (Hitchhiker's Guide).
my monkied brain: T_jack [ntm]katekat1010 on April 22nd, 2010 12:21 pm (UTC)
oh me too darling! and embarrasingly enough because my first undergrad did written evaluations instead of grades, and i had this one terribly boring history of dance class i often nodded off in - she wrote that into my transcript - it's now on my permanent record.

that being said, i think i probably found it annoying in part because The Nemesis is frustrating in many ways, this being one of them. Well, and the fact that there were only three of us + the professor. In a class of 20 or 50, when the prof is droning on, i can see it, but I've pinched myself to stay awake out of politeness, why can't he?

And LOL for seeing the Captain Jack doing his whole brassy thing and you seeing it as Hitchiker influenced (since it probably was). If you scroll down the page a little bit you get to a reveal post where the woman who played Captain Jack discusses the process - the comments are most interesting there, I think.
astolatastolat on April 22nd, 2010 11:29 am (UTC)
haha, this guy sounds like a jerk for many other reasons than this, but I cannot help going /o\ as I would totally do something like this.

(I don't process information aurally, I need it written down, and trying to follow lectures/readings of any kind almost invariably knocks me out in about 5-10 minutes. I wrote a lot of proto-fanfic to stay awake in class.)
my monkied brain: AI_passionate adamkatekat1010 on April 22nd, 2010 12:17 pm (UTC)
hmm, i think that is a very fair assessment - it's not the falling asleep it's the pile up of that on top of lots of other things - indifference being one of them.

and i completely understand not processing information in lecture style - it's not my favorite either, especially when it's a presentation, but sadly the academy likes them, you know? i bet people who take peeks of your notes are amused though!
ask_captainjackask_captainjack on May 14th, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC)
Baby, I would have shot him in the face for that shit!

(J/K!!! I would only have punched him in the face, a little bit.)

Don't want you to fail your Captain Jack Harkness Studies class!
Ianto Jonesask_aboutcoffee on May 14th, 2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
I hear you have to sign a waiver before you can take Captain Jack Harkness Studies.

I wouldn't know, I tested out. First Honours!
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Ianto Jonesask_aboutcoffee on May 14th, 2010 08:47 pm (UTC)
You shouldn't feel bad, KateKat! Jack nods off all the time when I'm giving presentations. He says that's impossible because he only falls asleep on my head, but I know why he wears those sunglasses when we're having Presentation Day at Torchwood.

Personally I would have yelled TORCHWOOD! at him. That's what I do. Sometimes I mix it up and yell ORGY, it's funny watching Jack fall out of his chair.
ask_captainjackask_captainjack on May 14th, 2010 08:50 pm (UTC)
Your head is Welsh-shaped. Welsh is the most comfortable shape.

Listen, I don't make the rules, I break the rules. When I'm falling out of my chair, it's deliberate, sexy, intentional...mysterious? I'm Torchwood.
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ask_adeaddoctor on May 14th, 2010 09:38 pm (UTC)
Tossers, the lot of them. Don't put up with their crap, katekat.

And Tosh sez: arigato gozaimasu! She's proud that Team Torchwood represents in Asian studies!

(Jack, geroff. You know I won't heal if you give me a fucking pity hickey.)
my monkied brain: You Rockkatekat1010 on May 14th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
Thank you thank you!! I try not to - threatening a shoe to their faces has been my response. (and unsurprisingly, it worked)

Thanks for the message from Tosh too - I'm delighted and honored you came to visit (and I try to represent as best i can!)

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